THE HERD - Hour 1 - Defending Victor Wembanyama, previewing game 4 of the NBA Finals

The Herd with Colin Cowherd41mJune 10, 2026
AI-Generated Summary

Colin Cowherd delivers a passionate defense of Victor Wembanyama, arguing that the NBA's increased physicality in the playoffs disproportionately targets elite big men like Wemby—despite his youth, international background, and stoic demeanor. He draws parallels to legendary bigs like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Shaq, who also absorbed physical punishment, and frames Wemby’s occasional reactions not as aggression but as natural responses to relentless, multi-man defensive schemes. Cowherd dismisses the New York Post’s sensationalist 'wanted poster' headline as absurd, emphasizing that Wemby is navigating a code of conduct older than modern basketball. He also uses the NBA Finals as a springboard to critique the NFL’s failure to capitalize on available talent—highlighting Sam Darnold, Tom Brady, and Malik Willis as underappreciated stars who were ignored by most teams despite elite stats and coachability. Cowherd argues that NFL front offices routinely undervalue quarterback talent, especially when it comes from lesser-known or overlooked players, and calls out the league’s lack of urgency in developing its roster. The episode closes with a philosophical take on the World Cup: not as a vehicle for growing soccer in America, but as a four-week global celebration—like a vacation—that’s valuable in its own right, regardless of long-term impact.

Key Takeaways
1

Wemby’s physicality in the NBA Finals is a result of the league’s intentional increase in post-season physical play, not personal aggression.

2

Elite big men like Wemby, Kareem, and Shaq have historically absorbed more physical punishment than guards or forwards.

3

The New York Post’s 'wanted poster' headline for Wemby is a joke—his actions are a natural response to being double-teamed and shoved.

4

Sam Darnold, Tom Brady, and Malik Willis were all available to multiple NFL teams, yet only two teams pursued them seriously.

5

NFL teams routinely undervalue quarterback talent, especially when it comes from lesser-known or international players.

…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus

Chapters
2:49
5 min

Defending Wemby: The Lion vs. the Little Bird

Wemby was the lion. Jalen Brunson was the little bird, and he just got frustrated, and usually Stoic Wemby swatted him.

Highlight
7:32
4 min

The Code of Conduct for Big Men

Cowherd explains that big men are expected to establish dominance through physicality, especially in the playoffs. He argues that the NBA’s rules allow more tolerance for physical play in high-stakes games, which means big men like Wemby absorb the brunt of it.

11:39
3 min

The World Cup as a Five-Week Vacation

Cowherd reframes the World Cup in America not as a tool for growing soccer, but as a global, patriotic, fanatical five-week celebration—like a vacation—that’s valuable in its own right, even if it doesn’t change the sport’s long-term popularity.

14:10
9 min

NFL’s Failure to Value Talent: The Darnold/Brady/Willis Paradox

Darnold, Brady, Malik Willis there to the market. I'll say this. You don't have to love Kyler Murray. He's a number one pick and took Arizona to the playoffs in the toughest division arguably during his tenure in the league.

Highlight
23:10
18 min

Talent Is Obvious: The 5-Minute Rule in Sports and Entertainment

Cowherd argues that talent in sports and entertainment is instantly recognizable—within minutes or even seconds—using examples from music, comedy, and basketball. He uses Malik Willis’s performance in Green Bay as proof that talent is visible even in limited reps.

High-Impact Quotes
Wemby was the lion. Jalen Brunson was the little bird, and he just got frustrated, and usually Stoic Wemby swatted him.
Colin Cowherd6:07
Darnold, Brady, Malik Willis there to the market. I'll say this. You don't have to love Kyler Murray. He's a number one pick and took Arizona to the playoffs in the toughest division arguably during his tenure in the league.
Colin Cowherd48:29
Go watch a documentary on Quincy Jones. When it comes to music, when it comes to sports, you can walk in. You can walk into an AU basketball gym. Any of you. And within five minutes, you would pick out the best or top three players at a 10 teams plan.
Colin Cowherd46:07
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Colin Cowherd
Topics Discussed
victor wembanyama95%nba finals90%nfl draft85%football talent evaluation80%world cup 202675%big men in basketball70%nba physicality65%college football scandal60%
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malik willis

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