THE HERD - Hour 1 - Defending Victor Wembanyama, previewing game 4 of the NBA Finals
Colin Cowherd delivers a passionate defense of Victor Wembanyama, arguing that the NBA's increased physicality in the playoffs disproportionately targets elite big men like Wemby—despite his youth, international background, and stoic demeanor. He draws parallels to legendary bigs like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Shaq, who also absorbed physical punishment, and frames Wemby’s occasional reactions not as aggression but as natural responses to relentless, multi-man defensive schemes. Cowherd dismisses the New York Post’s sensationalist 'wanted poster' headline as absurd, emphasizing that Wemby is navigating a code of conduct older than modern basketball. He also uses the NBA Finals as a springboard to critique the NFL’s failure to capitalize on available talent—highlighting Sam Darnold, Tom Brady, and Malik Willis as underappreciated stars who were ignored by most teams despite elite stats and coachability. Cowherd argues that NFL front offices routinely undervalue quarterback talent, especially when it comes from lesser-known or overlooked players, and calls out the league’s lack of urgency in developing its roster. The episode closes with a philosophical take on the World Cup: not as a vehicle for growing soccer in America, but as a four-week global celebration—like a vacation—that’s valuable in its own right, regardless of long-term impact.
Wemby’s physicality in the NBA Finals is a result of the league’s intentional increase in post-season physical play, not personal aggression.
Elite big men like Wemby, Kareem, and Shaq have historically absorbed more physical punishment than guards or forwards.
The New York Post’s 'wanted poster' headline for Wemby is a joke—his actions are a natural response to being double-teamed and shoved.
Sam Darnold, Tom Brady, and Malik Willis were all available to multiple NFL teams, yet only two teams pursued them seriously.
NFL teams routinely undervalue quarterback talent, especially when it comes from lesser-known or international players.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Defending Wemby: The Lion vs. the Little Bird
“Wemby was the lion. Jalen Brunson was the little bird, and he just got frustrated, and usually Stoic Wemby swatted him.”
The Code of Conduct for Big Men
Cowherd explains that big men are expected to establish dominance through physicality, especially in the playoffs. He argues that the NBA’s rules allow more tolerance for physical play in high-stakes games, which means big men like Wemby absorb the brunt of it.
The World Cup as a Five-Week Vacation
Cowherd reframes the World Cup in America not as a tool for growing soccer, but as a global, patriotic, fanatical five-week celebration—like a vacation—that’s valuable in its own right, even if it doesn’t change the sport’s long-term popularity.
NFL’s Failure to Value Talent: The Darnold/Brady/Willis Paradox
“Darnold, Brady, Malik Willis there to the market. I'll say this. You don't have to love Kyler Murray. He's a number one pick and took Arizona to the playoffs in the toughest division arguably during his tenure in the league.”
Talent Is Obvious: The 5-Minute Rule in Sports and Entertainment
Cowherd argues that talent in sports and entertainment is instantly recognizable—within minutes or even seconds—using examples from music, comedy, and basketball. He uses Malik Willis’s performance in Green Bay as proof that talent is visible even in limited reps.
“Wemby was the lion. Jalen Brunson was the little bird, and he just got frustrated, and usually Stoic Wemby swatted him.”
“Darnold, Brady, Malik Willis there to the market. I'll say this. You don't have to love Kyler Murray. He's a number one pick and took Arizona to the playoffs in the toughest division arguably during his tenure in the league.”
“Go watch a documentary on Quincy Jones. When it comes to music, when it comes to sports, you can walk in. You can walk into an AU basketball gym. Any of you. And within five minutes, you would pick out the best or top three players at a 10 teams plan.”
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