A Helping of Hegel and a Morsel of Marx

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg1h 25mMay 2, 2026

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In this wide-ranging episode of *The Remnant*, Jonah Goldberg reflects on his experience at the Turner Classic Movies Film Festival, where he attended the opening night tribute to Robert Redford and interacted with figures like Jane Fonda and Tony Shalhoub. He uses the occasion to launch into a deep philosophical discussion of Hegel and Marx, unpacking Hegel’s concept of the 'world historical figure'—a transformative individual who, through ambition and will, reshapes society even if not for noble reasons. Goldberg critiques the media’s tendency to frame Donald Trump as a Hegelian figure, arguing that this misrepresents Hegel’s teleological vision of history as a progressive march toward self-awareness and ethical governance. He then contrasts this with Marx’s inversion of Hegel: where Hegel sees ideas shaping history, Marx insists material conditions and the means of production determine consciousness. Goldberg expresses skepticism about modern self-identified Marxists, suggesting their use of the label often functions as ideological signaling rather than genuine adherence to economic theory. He critiques the labor theory of value as economically nonsensical and questions why Marxism retains intellectual deference while fascism does not, attributing this to Marxism’s perceived good intentions and intellectual pedigree. The episode culminates in a blistering critique of institutions like the ACLU and the American Library Association, accusing them of inflating the threat of 'book banning' to generate fear, fundraising, and moral superiority. Goldberg argues this constitutes a form of anti-Americanism, as these groups profit from distorting reality to maintain a narrative of national decline. He extends this analysis to right-wing figures like Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes, suggesting both sides engage in performative outrage and narrative distortion to sustain relevance and revenue. Ultimately, he warns against the human desire for struggle, even when it’s manufactured, and calls for a more honest, less performative engagement with America’s real challenges.

Key Takeaways
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Hegel’s 'world historical figure' is not just a powerful person, but one who transforms society through will and ambition, advancing humanity toward higher consciousness—Trump does not qualify under this definition.

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Marx inverted Hegel by arguing that material conditions, not ideas, shape history; Goldberg rejects the labor theory of value as economically absurd.

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Modern self-identification as 'Marxist' often functions as ideological signaling rather than genuine economic or political belief.

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Institutions like the ACLU and ALA profit from exaggerating threats like 'book banning' to maintain a narrative of national decline, which Goldberg calls a form of anti-Americanism.

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The human desire for struggle is natural, but when it’s manufactured for political or financial gain—on both left and right—it undermines genuine democratic discourse.

Chapters
0:00
2 min

Opening Night at TCM Film Festival

Jonah Goldberg reflects on attending the Turner Classic Movies Film Festival, including the red carpet experience, meeting Jane Fonda, and the tribute to Robert Redford, setting the stage for deeper philosophical reflections.

2:00
8 min

The Uncanny Valley and Aging Minds

Goldberg shares his reflections on Jane Fonda’s sharpness at 88, linking it to the 'uncanny valley' effect—where near-human appearance triggers heightened scrutiny of minor flaws, making her verbal slips seem more jarring than they are.

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15 min

Hegel’s World Historical Figure: Myth vs. Reality

If you take out this Enlightenment era optimism from Hegel, then Trump really does look like a world historical figure. Okay, but by that logic, so would Godzilla and so would an earthquake and so would a pandemic.

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25:00
25 min

Marx’s Inversion of Hegel and the Myth of the Labor Theory of Value

The business owner who comes up with the idea for a better mousetrap... that none of the value of the product is reflective of his work. It is purely the guy on the assembly line... and the owner of the factory is just exploiting the laborer.

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25 min

Why Marxism Gets Intellectual Deference (and Fascism Doesn’t)

Marxism is seen as, in theory, well-intentioned. And it hit a critical mass of intellectuals who found it compelling enough that it became impossible to just utterly disregard and discredit it in polite company.

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High-Impact Quotes
If you're going around calling this an evil country, based on misinformation and lies, and you're making money off of it... I think that's un-American. I think that's unpatriotic. I think it's hateful.
Jonah Goldberg70:34
Viral: 92.0
They're lying about the problems that we have. There are lots of problems ACLU could deal with, but instead they're like, give us your credit card number for a monthly deduction and we'll send you some swag so you can virtue signal...
Jonah Goldberg56:19
Viral: 90.0
The business owner who comes up with the idea for a better mousetrap... that none of the value of the product is reflective of his work. It is purely the guy on the assembly line... and the owner of the factory is just exploiting the laborer.
Jonah Goldberg33:16
Viral: 88.0
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Jonah Goldberg
Topics Discussed
Hegelian World Historical Figure95%Institutional Hypocrisy and Anti-Americanism92%Marxist Materialism vs Hegelian Idealism90%Performative Outrage and Political Signaling88%Labor Theory of Value85%Human Nature and the Desire for Struggle83%Book Banning and Censorship Narratives80%The Role of Ideology in Modern Politics75%
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Karl Marx

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Jane Fonda

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American Library Association

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ACLU

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