Ukraine Going From Maidan To War / Volodymyr Ishchenko

This Is Hell!1h 34mApril 6, 2026

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In this incisive episode of 'This Is Hell!', host Chuck Mertz returns to the show with sociologist Volodymyr Ishchenko to dissect the deeper structural forces behind the Russia-Ukraine war, challenging the dominant narrative that frames the conflict as a simple battle between democracy and authoritarianism. Ishchenko argues that the war did not begin in 2022 with Russia's full-scale invasion, but rather in 2014 with the Euromaidan uprising, which exposed deep class divisions within Ukrainian society. He contends that both the 2004 and 2014 revolutions failed because they were co-opted by post-Soviet political capitalists and Western-aligned elites, leading to a war of attrition that has devastated Ukraine. The episode highlights the brutal reality of 'busification'—forced mobilization of men aged 25 to 55—where poor and working-class Ukrainians are forcibly recruited, often brutalized, while the wealthy avoid service through bribery. Ishchenko critiques the myth of Ukrainian national unity, revealing widespread draft evasion, desertion, and social resistance, especially among women and families of conscripts. He also explores the concept of 'military Keynesianism'—where state spending on war boosts certain sectors of the economy—and warns that the war is not only destroying Ukraine but also undermining the global liberal order. Ultimately, Ishchenko calls for an end to the war not for geopolitical gain, but to preserve any future for Ukraine at all, emphasizing that the country faces a demographic catastrophe with projections of population decline to 15 million by the end of the century.

Key Takeaways
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The Ukraine war began not in 2022 but in 2014 with the Maidan uprising, which exposed deep class divisions and failed to deliver genuine democratic transformation.

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Forced mobilization ('busification') is a systemic, brutal practice that disproportionately targets poor and working-class Ukrainians, while the wealthy evade service through bribery.

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The war has led to widespread social resistance, including draft dodging, desertion, and violence against recruiters—indicating a crisis of state legitimacy.

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The narrative of Ukrainian national unity is a myth; the war has deepened societal fragmentation and alienation from the state.

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Military Keynesianism—state spending on war—has temporarily boosted Russia’s economy but is unsustainable and destructive for Ukraine.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

The War That Began in 2014

The invasion of Ukraine by Russia, a genocide in Gaza by Israel along with the help of the United States, a regional war and now a US president is threatening the end of a civilization.

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10:00
10 min

The Myth of Ukrainian Unity

Ishchenko dismantles the myth of national unity in Ukraine, arguing that the 2014 and 2022 conflicts were not driven by a monolithic patriotic front but by deep class and political fractures. He highlights how the war has alienated the working class, who are being forced to fight for a state that abandoned them during decades of austerity.

20:00
20 min

Busification and the Brutal Reality of Mobilization

Poor and working class Ukrainians fighting in the war were forcibly mobilized. As men from 25 to 55 years old are targeted for military duty, then picked up in small vans, buses, in what is called busification.

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40:00
20 min

The Class War Behind the War

This is not about personal obsessions, clearly not about the personal ideologies but how those motivations, how those ideologies relate to the real world and actually relate in a very kind of consistent way.

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1:00:00
20 min

The Failure of Western Liberalism

The episode critiques the failure of Western liberalism to deliver on its promises of prosperity and democracy to post-Soviet nations. Ishchenko argues that Ukraine’s integration into the West was never truly possible due to the structural contradictions of neoliberalism and the decline of the social contract.

High-Impact Quotes
Without people, we don't have the future. And that's the most fundamental thing that we, I think, the Ukrainian politicians, the Western politicians which have been pretty much involved into this war, everyone should think about.
Volodymyr Ishchenko40:51
Viral: 95.0
The invasion of Ukraine by Russia, a genocide in Gaza by Israel along with the help of the United States, a regional war and now a US president is threatening the end of a civilization.
Chuck Mertz1:12
Viral: 90.0
Poor and working class Ukrainians fighting in the war were forcibly mobilized. As men from 25 to 55 years old are targeted for military duty, then picked up in small vans, buses, in what is called busification.
Chuck Mertz2:32
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Chuck Mertz

Guest

Volodymyr Ishchenko
Topics Discussed
Forced Mobilization and Busification95%Class Conflict in Ukraine90%Demographic Collapse in Ukraine90%Global Crisis of the Liberal Order85%The Myth of Ukrainian National Unity85%Post-Soviet State Capture85%Military Keynesianism80%Western Liberalism and Neoliberalism75%
People & Brands

Volodymyr Ishchenko

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Ukraine

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Chuck Mertz

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Putin

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70xNegative

Russia

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65xNegative

Trump

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50xNegative

United States

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45xNegative

NATO

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40xNegative

European Union

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35xNegative

Patreon

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15xPositive

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