Rachel Goldberg-Polin: Mother of murdered hostage Hersh 'parcels out her pain' in book

What Matters Now51mApril 21, 2026

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Rachel Goldberg-Polin, mother of Hirsch Goldberg-Polin who was taken hostage by Hamas on October 7, 2023, and murdered in August 2024, shares the deeply personal journey behind her new memoir, *When We See You Again*. In a raw and intimate conversation with host Jessica Steinberg, Rachel reveals how writing the book became an act of survival—a way to 'parcel out her pain' after years of unbearable grief. She describes the book not as a memoir or a tell-all, but as a form of 'broadcast therapy,' a public unraveling of her soul that answers the painful, unanswerable question: 'How are you?' The book captures her life before and after October 7th, her complex relationship with her son, her Jewish identity, and the spiritual and emotional weight of being the mother of a Holocaust survivor who was later killed. Despite the agony of reliving her trauma, especially during the audio recording process, Rachel finds meaning in the act of writing and speaking, driven by a profound sense of tragic optimism—the belief that even in the deepest sorrow, hope and purpose remain possible. Rachel reflects on the editing process, which cut 87 pages of the original manuscript due to its overwhelming emotional intensity, drawing parallels to Elie Wiesel’s original, much longer draft of *Night*. She emphasizes the importance of honoring her son’s full humanity—not reducing him to a hero, but remembering him as a normal, vibrant young man. She also speaks of the profound impact of meeting Orlevi, a former hostage who carried Hirsch’s book as a lifeline, symbolizing how love and legacy endure even in the darkest moments. As she prepares for a book tour, Rachel remains uncertain of the book’s reception but holds onto the hope that it might help others find their 'why' in the face of unimaginable loss. Her message is one of truth, vulnerability, and the quiet, enduring power of love amid grief.

Key Takeaways
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Writing the book was a form of 'broadcast therapy'—a way to 'parcel out' unbearable grief and answer the painful question 'How are you?'

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Rachel views herself not as a survivor, but as a bereaved parent whose pain is continuous and inescapable, even after her son’s death.

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The book is not a self-help guide but a raw, honest account of love, loss, and the spiritual weight of Jewish mourning and identity.

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She emphasizes the importance of remembering loved ones as whole people, not just heroes, to honor their full humanity.

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Tragic optimism—acknowledging deep sorrow while still holding onto hope—is her guiding philosophy.

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Introducing Rachel Goldberg-Polin and Her Journey

Host Jessica Steinberg introduces Rachel Goldberg-Polin, mother of Hirsch Goldberg-Polin, and discusses the release of her memoir *When We See You Again*. The episode begins with context on the book’s publication and Rachel’s symbolic use of masking tape to mark days since October 7th.

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The Birth of a Book: Writing as Survival

The book is not a tell-all. This book is me parceling out my pain because I just didn't know how to keep it in this backpack that is always on my dock.

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The Pain of Being Asked 'How Are You?'

I see this dagger. This knife is sticking out of my chest this very second. So I can't believe that people can't see it.

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The Emotional Toll of Reading Her Own Words

I was reading it, but I was trying not to digest what I was reading because I thought I cannot live through this again.

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The Role of Jewish Identity and Spirituality

Rachel discusses how her Jewish faith and identity shape her grief, including her belief in the sanctity of life and the idea that those who died are holy. She reflects on the spiritual significance of naming children and divine inspiration.

High-Impact Quotes
I see this dagger. This knife is sticking out of my chest this very second. So I can't believe that people can't see it.
Rachel Goldberg-Polin10:50
Viral: 90.0
I am a tragic optimist. And I wrote, who coined that phrase? And it should not surprise you, Jessica Steinberg. That? It was Viktor Frankl.
Rachel Goldberg-Polin50:44
Viral: 88.0
The book is not a tell-all. This book is me parceling out my pain because I just didn't know how to keep it in this backpack that is always on my dock.
Rachel Goldberg-Polin8:04
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Jessica Steinberg

Guest

Rachel Goldberg-Polin
Topics Discussed
grief and loss95%tragic optimism92%motherhood and parental grief90%writing as healing88%jewish identity and spirituality85%hostage crisis and aftermath80%memory and legacy78%editorial process and truth-telling75%
People & Brands

Rachel Goldberg-Polin

person

120xPositive

Hirsch Goldberg-Polin

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85xPositive

Jessica Steinberg

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45xPositive

John

person

30xPositive

Orlevi

person

25xPositive

Elie Sharabi

person

15xPositive

Viktor Frankl

person

12xPositive

Elie Wiesel

person

5xPositive

Yad Vashem

organization

4xNeutral

Random House

organization

4xPositive

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