It Could Happen Here Weekly 236

It Could Happen Here2h 51mJune 13, 2026
AI-Generated Summary

The U.S. Border Patrol isn’t just failing—it’s systematically producing Nazis. Greg Bovino, a former agent now endorsing ethnic cleansing at a neo-Nazi remigration summit in Portugal, is not an outlier but the predictable outcome of a 30-year institutional design built on dehumanization, militarization, and anti-immigrant ideology. Far from a rogue actor, Bovino exemplifies how federal agencies funded by both Democrats and Republicans function not as law enforcement but as federal hit squads trained to terrorize communities and dismantle families. This isn’t a failure of reform—it’s the intended result. The episode exposes how ideological totalism—language control, purity demands, and the criminalization of doubt—isn’t confined to cults or extremists but is embedded in mainstream institutions, from media echo chambers to political rhetoric. The real danger isn’t just the rise of overt fascists, but the normalization of the systems that produce them. Yet resistance is not only possible—it’s historically proven. The story of Filipino revolutionary Isabel de los Reyes, radicalized in a Spanish prison and later weaponizing imperial tools to ignite national labor movements, shows how oppression can incubate liberation. Today, the same pattern repeats: digital platforms amplify pogroms, courts block discriminatory policies, and new clinics emerge in defiance of federal intimidation.

Key Takeaways
1

The U.S. Border Patrol functions as a federal hit squad trained to terrorize communities and dismantle families, not as a law enforcement agency.

2

Greg Bovino’s far-right ideology was not sudden radicalization but the inevitable outcome of 30 years in an institution built on dehumanization and militarization.

3

Ethnic cleansing is not a fringe idea—it’s the explicit goal of the neo-Nazi-organized remigration summit Bovino attended.

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Ideological totalism—language control, purity demands, and criminalization of dissent—is embedded in mainstream institutions, not just cults or extremists.

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Imperial repression often creates the conditions for rebellion: prisons and exile become sites of radical networking and ideological transfer.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

The Plane Turned in the Air

The episode opens with a visceral, cinematic account of a mid-air gun battle, immediately establishing the theme of sudden, violent disruption to ordinary life. This moment of chaos sets the tone for the podcast's exploration of how systems of power can collapse into violence.

2:36
6 min

Greg Bovino: From Border Agent to Neo-Nazi

This is not something we can easily reform. This is not something we can train. If this country gets through this and in 2028, yes, we have another election. God. We can't fucking let this keep happening, right?

Highlight
8:45
9 min

The Remigration Conference: A Blueprint for Ethnic Cleansing

There is not mention in that definition of undocumented people, even the way that Bovino refers to it as illegal aliens, a term he uses a lot. This is very much a conference about a white Europe.

Highlight
17:30
11 min

The Border Patrol as a Tool of State Violence

The hosts argue that the Border Patrol, funded by both Democratic and Republican administrations, functions as a federal hit squad. They cite Operation Don't Let Him Ride in Las Vegas as a case study of mass roundups with no evidence of trafficking, showing how the agency’s success is defined by the number of people apprehended, not justice.

28:20
12 min

The Myth of the 'Good' Border Agent

The hosts challenge the idea that Bovino was a 'good' agent. They argue that his popularity among field agents stems from his willingness to carry out brutal operations, not his integrity. His self-comparison to Rommel and Patton reveals a deeply militarized worldview.

High-Impact Quotes
You know, the empire might globalize trade, might globalize capital, might globalize... various forms of suppression, but it inadvertently globalizes resistance.
Dan Alkurd100:22
The policy violates the plaintiff appellee's constitutional right to equal protection of the law, unquote.
Host173:15
And I thought Hitler was a mistake. I'm going to be honest with you guys. I don't think that's an appropriate name for them to use.
Host186:56
Speakers

Hosts

Andrew SageGarrison DavisDan AlkurdMia WongJames StoutRobert EvansHost NameHost

Guest

Andrew Lieber
Topics Discussed
border patrol95%gender-affirming care95%belfast pogrom95%trans healthcare bans92%cultural insensitivity in branding92%trans youth healthcare92%imperial collapse90%white nationalism90%transgender military policy90%animal naming controversies88%gulf states foreign policy88%ideological totalism88%federal funding threats85%ethnic cleansing85%anarchist networks85%iran-us tensions80%
People & Brands

isabel de los reyes

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16xPositive

greg bovino

person

12xNegative

Andrew Lieber

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10xNeutral

Elon Musk

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8xNeutral

michel angiolillo

person

6xNeutral

isis

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6xNeutral

Gregory Bovino

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6xNeutral

aum shinrikyo

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5xNeutral

New York City

place

5xPositive

Apple Podcasts

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