432: Chicago's Apartment 131 Murders w/ Gregg Owen

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast1h 26mApril 3, 2026

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In this gripping episode of Most Notorious!, host Eric Rivenis sits down with Greg Owen, former assistant state's attorney and co-author of *Convergence*, to explore the chilling 1976 Apartment 131 murders in Chicago. Owen recounts how, after a career as a rock musician and a serendipitous decision to apply for a prosecutor role while in law school, he became deeply involved in one of the most perplexing cases of his career. The murder of two young, wealthy friends—Gio Messina and actress Delphine Moore—was marked by a lack of motive, no robbery, and a bizarre, nearly four-year delay in prosecution. Owen’s journey to reopen the case reveals a deeply corrupt system, a witness who feared the police, and a defendant who walked free on bond for years. Through relentless investigation, chance encounters, and the power of music to build trust with a reluctant witness, Owen and his partner Mike Goggin secured a conviction after a dramatic trial. The episode culminates in a courtroom showdown, a shocking attempted bribe, and a verdict that brought long-overdue justice. Owen reflects on the case as a profound moment of professional and personal transformation, underscoring the importance of perseverance in the face of systemic failure. Key takeaways include: 1) The power of persistence in pursuing justice, even when a case is buried; 2) The importance of human connection—Owen’s shared musical past helped gain a crucial witness’s trust; 3) Systemic corruption in the justice system can allow even the most heinous crimes to go unpunished; 4) The role of chance and convergence in solving complex cases; 5) The moral imperative to defend victims regardless of their lifestyle or background; 6) The danger of overconfidence in powerful defense attorneys; 7) The psychological toll of high-stakes trials and the need for integrity; 8) The lasting impact of true crime stories on public memory and justice reform. The episode is a masterclass in investigative tenacity and moral courage.

Key Takeaways
1

Persistence in pursuing justice is essential, even when a case is ignored or buried.

2

Human connection—like shared experiences in music—can break down barriers and build trust with reluctant witnesses.

3

Systemic corruption in the justice system can allow violent criminals to walk free for years.

4

Chance encounters and 'convergence' of events often play a pivotal role in solving complex cases.

5

Victims deserve justice regardless of their lifestyle or social status.

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Chapters
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10 min

Introduction and the Birth of a Prosecutor

Host Eric Rivenis introduces guest Greg Owen, a former rock musician turned prosecutor, whose journey into law began with a serendipitous bulletin board notice. Owen recounts his early life, musical career, and the pivotal decision to enter law school, setting the stage for his future in criminal justice.

10:00
10 min

The Apartment 131 Murders: A Case That Haunted a Prosecutor

It's a case that stayed with me for, I don't know, what is it, almost 50 years. Because of the violent nature, but it was friend killing friends. It was a very wealthy person, young. And we never could understand why he did it.

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20:00
10 min

The Bureaucratic Nightmare: A Corrupt System

Owen exposes the deeply corrupt Cook County court system he encountered early in his career, where cases were routinely dropped due to rigged procedures, judges taking bribes, and prosecutors losing cases on purpose. This context explains why the Apartment 131 case was allowed to languish for years.

30:00
10 min

The Breakthrough: A Witness and a Phone Call

I said, well, this is not good. So I started going through the file and as I went through it, I looked at a picture of the defendant and found out who he was and where he was from and this and that.

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40:00
10 min

The Power of Music: Building Trust with a Reluctant Witness

It happened again, see? Now, I had never in my life considered what music would have to do with anything like this. It never even crossed my mind until this guy just happens to say we got all night.

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High-Impact Quotes
He said to me, well, hello, Greg. This is the governor of the great state of Tennessee. I thought it was like a prank. But then I could hear stuff in the background. I knew he was, you know...
Greg Owen45:09
Viral: 95.0
I'm going to tell you something right now. F you. And don't ever talk to me again as long as you live.
Greg Owen58:27
Viral: 92.0
I go, are you kidding me? He goes, no, no. He said, I should have told Gio about this and for some reason I didn't. I might've saved his life.
Greg Owen43:24
Viral: 90.0
Speakers

Host

Eric Rivenis

Guest

Greg Owen
Topics Discussed
Chicago Apartment 131 Murders95%Prosecutorial Integrity90%Systemic Corruption in Justice88%Bribery and Ethical Boundaries87%Witness Reluctance and Trust-Building85%Victim Advocacy and Justice83%Convergence of Events in True Crime82%Power of Music in Human Connection80%
People & Brands

Greg Owen

person

120xPositive

Mitchell Weinger

person

45xNegative

Mike Goggin

person

35xPositive

Cedric

person

30xNeutral

Jonathan Dixon

person

25xPositive

Cook County State's Attorney's Office

organization

20xPositive

Bill Wright

person

20xPositive

Convergence

book

15xPositive

Ted O'Connor

person

15xPositive

26th Street Court

organization

15xPositive

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