EULAR 2026 Daily Podcast Day 2c

Rheumnow Podcast32mJune 5, 2026
AI-Generated Summary

A groundbreaking head-to-head trial at EULAR 2026 reveals that bimikizumab—dual IL-17A and IL-17F inhibition—significantly outperforms risankizumab (IL-23 inhibitor) in psoriatic arthritis, with 50% achieving ACR50 at week 16 versus 38%. This clear superiority could reshape treatment guidelines. Meanwhile, long-term data from Erlangen’s CAR T-cell program shows that 12% of patients relapsed after autologous CD19 CAR T therapy, with relapses occurring at a median of 13 months—most notably in inflammatory myopathies. Crucially, these relapses were successfully managed with BCMA-targeted therapies, suggesting a strategic shift: CD19 CAR T may not be a one-time cure, but a first-line intervention that can be followed by BCMA-based rescue. In a separate innovation, a novel NK cell therapy (AB-101) combined with rituximab achieved complete B-cell depletion in RA patients without serious toxicity—offering a promising outpatient alternative to CAR T, though efficacy remains limited. Finally, a randomized trial demonstrated that shared decision-making via a 3-minute video improved patient satisfaction, treatment adherence, and reduced adverse events—proving that empowering patients with choice is both feasible and effective in rheumatology. The episode underscores a pivotal shift: treatment is no longer just about choosing the right drug, but about sequencing therapies, anticipating relapse, and integrating patient autonomy.

Key Takeaways
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Bimikizumab outperformed risankizumab in psoriatic arthritis, achieving 50% ACR50 response at week 16 versus 38%.

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12% of patients relapsed after CD19 CAR T therapy, with relapses occurring at a median of 13 months, primarily in inflammatory myopathies.

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BCMA-targeted therapies successfully rescued patients who relapsed after CD19 CAR T, suggesting a two-step treatment strategy.

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AB-101, a non-CAR NK cell therapy with high-affinity FC receptors, achieved complete B-cell depletion in RA patients without serious toxicity.

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Shared decision-making via a 3-minute video increased patient satisfaction, reduced treatment switching, and lowered adverse events.

…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus

Chapters
0:00
4 min

Bimikizumab vs. Risankizumab: A Clear Winner in PsA

50% of ACF-50 response at week 16 in the bimikizumab arm versus 38% in the raisin kizumab arm. So quite effectively demonstration of superiority of bimikizumab.

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4:02
2 min

CAR T-Cell Relapses: A New Challenge in Autoimmunity

The relapses were not minor relapse. They were significant. For example, the patient with lupus had knee-onset transverse myelitis.

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6:17
2 min

Rescuing CAR T Relapses with BCMA Therapy

Patients who relapsed after CD19 CAR T therapy were successfully treated with BCMA-targeted therapies, suggesting a strategic two-step approach.

9:13
3 min

Predicting Relapse: Immunologic Flares Precede Clinical Flares

Several days before she actually had a routine per protocol collection of her blood and they did immunologic analysis of that preclinical flare blood sample, they actually found pathogenic B cells...

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12:20
3 min

AB-101: A Safer, Outpatient NK Cell Therapy for B-Cell Depletion

There was no cytokine release syndrome, no ICAMS, no hypogamaglavinemia, graft-versus-host disease, or any serious adverse events.

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High-Impact Quotes
50 of ACF -50 response at week 16 in the bimikizumab arm versus 38 in the raisin kizumab arm. So quite effectively demonstration of superiority of bimikizumab.
Aurelie Nagm2:00
And when we're talking about these relapses, they were not minor relapse. They were significant. For example, the patient with lupus had knee -onset transverse myelitis.
Yus Yusuf16:26
But those who had chosen their drug were more happy, more satisfied. They switched their treatments less. They had less side effects.
Aurelie Nagm21:52
Speakers

Hosts

Aurelie NagmPeter NashAl KimYus Yusuf
Topics Discussed
psoriatic arthritis treatment95%CAR T-cell therapy relapse90%BCMA targeting in autoimmunity88%shared decision-making in rheumatology85%NK cell therapy for B-cell depletion82%predicting autoimmune relapse80%BMI as treatment predictor78%outpatient cellular therapy75%
People & Brands

CD19 CAR T-cell therapy

other

12xNeutral

EULAR 2026

other

10xNeutral

BCMA CAR T-cell therapy

other

8xPositive

bimikizumab

product

8xPositive

Erlangen

organization

6xNeutral

rituximab

product

6xNeutral

AB-101

other

6xPositive

risankizumab

product

5xNeutral

Aurelie Nagm

person

4xNeutral

Al Kim

person

4xNeutral

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