Searching for the Truth Behind Hauntings, Part Two | Grave Talks CLASSIC

The Grave Talks | Haunted, Paranormal & Supernatural23mJune 15, 2026
AI-Generated Summary

The second part of 'Grave Talks' dives deep into the lived reality of paranormal investigation through the candid lens of Michelle and Dawn, co-founders of High Heels and Hauntings. They challenge the myth that Ouija boards summon demons, arguing instead that negative experiences are tied to the user's mindset and environment—not the board itself. Their most powerful revelation? That spirits often aren't malevolent, but emotionally charged beings seeking acknowledgment, connection, or closure. The episode reaches its climax with a chilling account from the Monroe House in Indiana, where a dark entity triggered uncharacteristic rage among the team, leading to a visceral, collective breakdown that underscored the psychological toll of haunted spaces. What emerges isn't fear, but a profound respect for the emotional weight spirits carry—and the responsibility investigators bear in honoring them. The hosts explore how energy, location, and intention shape paranormal encounters. They reveal that their Ouija board’s extreme activity may stem from its origin at a haunted jail, but also from their own energetic alignment. Most strikingly, they describe 'downloads'—sudden emotional surges from spirits that leave investigators drained, sad, or confused. This isn’t supernatural horror; it’s emotional resonance. The episode reframes haunting not as a threat, but as a form of communication, one that demands empathy, ritual, and respect.

Key Takeaways
1

Spirits often seek acknowledgment, not harm—many are lonely, grieving, or trying to reconnect with the living.

2

Negative experiences with Ouija boards are more likely tied to the user’s mindset or environment than the board itself.

3

The most active Ouija board may be 'pre-attached' to dark energy, especially if acquired from a haunted location.

4

Investigators can experience emotional 'downloads'—sudden surges of sadness, confusion, or grief from spirits.

5

A dark entity in the Monroe House triggered uncharacteristic rage among the team, proving haunted spaces can manipulate human emotions.

…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus

Chapters
1:54
2 min

Haunted Homes and Emotional Attachments

Michelle and Dawn discuss personal experiences with hauntings in their homes, including a child-like presence in a son’s room that may have been a spirit drawn to his Xbox and games. They reflect on how spirits may attach to places or people based on emotional resonance.

4:00
2 min

Debunking Ouija Board Myths

If I had a bad experience and I was using dousing rods, I would assume it was the dousing rods that gave me this bad experience. I think it's whatever equipment you are using at the time.

Highlight
6:32
2 min

The Ritual of Opening and Closing

Michelle and Dawn detail their method for safely conducting Ouija sessions: opening by circling the board three times, asking spirits for permission, and closing by reversing the motion. This ritual is a sign of respect.

8:51
3 min

Emotional Messages from the Other Side

The planchette was sliding off of our fingers. It was flying across. Yeah. I mean, it was moving with force to answer our questions. It wanted to let us know that he was there.

Highlight
11:37
3 min

Location, Energy, and Spirit Attachment

They discuss how spirits may be drawn to places of emotional significance—homes, graves, or even jails—and how location can influence the type of spirit that appears.

High-Impact Quotes
Like the planchette was sliding off of our fingers. It was flying across. Yeah. I mean, it was moving with force to answer our questions. It wanted to let us know that he was there.
Dawn9:33
We started snapping at each other and it became really heated and emotional. And it was like we weren't ourselves just really fighting with each other.
Michelle21:39
If I had a bad experience and I was using dousing rods, I would assume it was the dousing rods that gave me this bad experience. I think it's whatever equipment you are using at the time.
Michelle6:11
Speakers

Host

Tony Bruschi

Guests

MichelleDawn
Topics Discussed
monroe house haunting98%spirit communication95%emotional energy of spirits92%ouija board safety90%haunted locations88%paranormal investigation rituals85%spirit attachment80%ghost box usage75%
People & Brands

Michelle

person

18xNeutral

Dawn

person

17xNeutral

Ouija board

other

15xNeutral

Monroe House

place

6xNegative

High Heels and Hauntings

organization

3xPositive

Tony Bruschi

person

2xNeutral

Eloise Asylum

place

1xNeutral

Reiki board

other

1xNeutral

SB 11

other

1xNeutral

Start discovering podcast insights today

Start with a 7-day trial and explore a growing catalog of popular podcasts. No credit card required.

No credit card required • 7-day trial • Cancel anytime