The Real Demon Hunter, Part Two | Grave Talks CLASSIC
Michael Salerno, a self-described demonologist and paranormal investigator, reveals the profound psychological and spiritual toll of his work in part two of a gripping conversation with The Grave Talks. After a harrowing first demonic case that left him weeping in prayer, Salerno stepped away from the field for two years due to a cascade of personal crises—job loss, broken appliances, family strife, and emotional collapse—believing he was being spiritually oppressed. What brought him back wasn’t a call to fame, but a deeply personal moment: his daughter told him, 'That's what you're supposed to be doing anyway, Dad.' This emotional validation, combined with a life-changing opportunity to assist on a TV show with rapper and investigator Steve Shippey, reignited his mission. Salerno shares that demonic activity isn’t always dramatic—sometimes it’s just a string of inexplicable bad luck—but it can be a sign of spiritual warfare. He emphasizes that exorcisms don’t destroy demons, only cast them out, and that these entities seek new victims, especially through 'invitations' like mortal sins, using digital tools to communicate with spirits, or even accepting cursed objects from antique stores. Despite the risks, he maintains that prayer, especially the rosary, and living a righteous life are the most powerful tools in the fight.
A spiritual crisis after your first demonic case is a valid warning sign—Salerno stepped away for two years due to financial collapse, broken appliances, and family strain, all signs he believed were demonic oppression.
Your family’s emotional response can be a divine signal: Salerno’s daughter told him, 'That's what you're supposed to be doing anyway, Dad,' which became his moral compass to return.
Digital communication with spirits—like asking a recorder, 'Is there anyone here?'—is just as much an invitation as a Ouija board, according to Salerno, and he refuses to do it.
Demons don’t die—they’re cast out, not destroyed, and they’ll seek new victims, especially those who’ve committed mortal sins or opened spiritual doors through rituals.
A cursed object from an antique store or attraction can be a silent invitation—Salerno warns that even a seemingly innocent trinket from Salem could carry a demonic attachment.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The First Case That Broke Him
“I was scared to death. That right there that I was going to deal with a real demon for the first time, I went and I knelt in front of my priest and I asked, please bless me. And I broke into tears.”
The Cost of the Calling
Salerno details the personal toll of his work—job loss, appliance failures, and even a year-long estrangement from his best friend Eric. He realized he wasn’t winning anymore, and the spiritual weight was too much.
The Call That Brought Him Back
“That's what you're supposed to be doing anyway, Dad.”
Rejoining the Legacy
Salerno reconnects with the paranormal community through Steve Shippey, meets exorcist Father Rodriguez, and is invited into the Winging Society for Paranormal Research—a group dedicated to continuing the Warrens’ legacy.
No Foolproof Way to Win
“I do believe that sometimes that does happen. Look at the Annalise Michelle case. I mean, that was a woman she ended up dying. It won.”
“I do believe that sometimes that does happen. Look at the Annalise Michelle case. I mean, that was a woman she ended up dying. It won.”
“I was scared to death. That right there that I was going to deal with a real demon for the first time, I went and I knelt in front of my priest and I asked, please bless me. And I broke into tears.”
“Every time a person uses a recorder and goes in and says, 'Is there anyone here that wants to communicate? I want to hear from you.' That is the same thing as using a Ouija board except it's digital.”
Host
Guest
Michael Salerno
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Steve Shippey
person
Father Rodriguez
person
Winging Society for Paranormal Research
organization
Ouija board
other
Tony Bruschi
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Annalise Michelle
person
Salem Mass
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Prozac
person
Ed Gein
person
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