337: Josh Gregory Interview: What Makes an Elite Tour Player, Short Game Secrets, and College vs. Pro Paths
Josh Gregory, a PGA Tour performance coach and former college golf coach, reveals that elite golfers aren't just defined by talent—they're forged by an unshakable 'no backup plan' mentality. He argues that players like Bryson DeChambeau and Patrick Reed succeeded not because of perfect swings, but because they were stubbornly committed to their own methods, even when others doubted them. Gregory shares a pivotal moment when DeChambeau called him late at night asking for a 'normal' lob wedge—only to reject it and stick with his single-length clubs, proving his mental toughness. The coach emphasizes that the real differentiator in elite golf isn't technique alone, but the ability to read lies and adapt on the fly. He debunks the myth that a 60-degree wedge is always best, revealing that a 56-degree club with more bounce offers greater consistency, especially for average players. His philosophy centers on 'live-based chipping'—teaching players to respond to real-world conditions, not rigid drills—because, as he puts it, 'I wouldn't have a job if everybody understood these things.' Gregory also exposes the dark side of modern college golf: it's no longer amateur athletics, but a high-stakes business where coaches must compete with million-dollar offers. He admits he’s thankful he’s no longer in the recruiting trenches, where he’d lose top players like DeChambeau to schools offering $100,000 bonuses.
Elite golfers succeed not because of perfect swings, but because they have no backup plan—only a relentless commitment to their own path.
A 56-degree wedge with 8–10 degrees of bounce is more versatile and consistent than a 60-degree lob wedge for most amateur players.
On uphill lies, move the ball forward in your stance to shallow the angle of attack and avoid chunking.
Bryson DeChambeau stuck with his single-length clubs despite pressure to switch—proving that stubbornness can be a superpower.
The real skill in chipping isn’t a fixed method, but reading the lie and adapting your setup in real time.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Introducing Josh Gregory: The Coach Behind the Elite
Smiley welcomes Josh Gregory, a PGA Tour performance coach and former college golf coach, who has watched more golf shots than nearly anyone on tour since 2015. Gregory shares his deep-rooted passion for coaching, tracing it back to his own fear-driven playing career and mentorship under legends like Hank Haney and Coach Sykes.
The Mindset of Elite Players: No Backup Plan
“There was no backup plan for them. If that makes sense. So Patrick told me from the moment he transferred to Georgia and you're struggling there... I will play major championships. I will play the Ryder Cup. I will win on the PGA Tour.”
Coaching Philosophy: Relationship Over Technique
Gregory explains his coaching approach: it’s not about fixing swings, but building relationships. He contrasts his style with players like Patrick Reed (who needs to be pushed) and Austin Smotherman (who needs emotional support), showing that great coaching is personal.
Bryson DeChambeau’s Unconventional Path
“He said, 'Coach, I can't do it. I've got to stick with my stuff.' I said, 'Great. I'll show you how we're going to learn to chip and bunker with a six iron or seven and a half iron.'”
The Power of Confidence: It Comes from Results
“Everybody says, well, how do I get confidence? Well, sadly, results lead to confidence. All the other stuff can help, but at the end of the day, I remember David DeVall saying when he became number one in the world, I just decided to have fun that year.”
“For a 10 handicap, I'd probably take the 60 degree out of the bag. I'd put more clubs up at the top of the bag because I think you can have so much more versatility with a 56.”
“I would lose my mind if I lost that player because of money. I understood in the past, like you lose kids maybe if you offer them 90 and this coach offers them 100. You may lose them. I get that within the four -and -a -half scholarship era.”
“Everybody says, well, how do I get confidence? Well, sadly, results lead to confidence. All the other stuff can help, but at the end of the day, I remember David DeVall saying when he became number one in the world, I just decided to have fun that year.”
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Josh Gregory
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Bryson DeChambeau
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Patrick Reed
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Jackson Koivin
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JJ Spahn
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Taylor Moore
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Pearson Cootie
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Austin Smotherman
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Hank Haney
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Coach Sykes
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