The Book Club: Journeys Through Ancient Literature
Emily Wilson, acclaimed translator of the Odyssey, challenges the myth of classical literature as a monolithic, authoritative source of timeless wisdom. In her new book, *Crossing the Wine Dark Sea*, she argues that ancient texts are not windows into a fixed past but dynamic, often contradictory cultural performances—shaped by translation, reception, and modern projection. She reveals how figures like Sappho, Helen, and the sirens have been mythologized through modern lenses, obscuring their original contexts. Wilson also critiques the contemporary 'Stoic bro' phenomenon, showing how Silicon Valley's cherry-picked philosophy ignores the full scope of ancient Stoicism. Her most provocative insight? The classics are not about answers, but about questions—and the real danger isn’t ignorance of antiquity, but the arrogance of pretending we already know what it means. She dissects the politics of translation, exposing how even respected 20th-century versions often copy each other, creating a false sense of diversity. Her own practice is a radical act of re-engagement: she translates not to replicate, but to interrogate. Her journey to the word 'complicated' for *polytropos*—a decision nearly derailed by Isaac Hayes’ song—epitomizes her belief that translation is never finished, never final. The book is both a manifesto and a mirror: it forces us to confront not just what ancient literature says, but what we project onto it—and why we keep returning to it, again and again.
Ancient literature isn't a fixed mirror of the past—it's a living conversation shaped by translation, reception, and modern projection.
Sappho, Helen, and the sirens were not what we think they were; modern myths about them obscure their original cultural and literary contexts.
The 'Stoic bro' trend is a selective, sanitized version of ancient philosophy that ignores its full worldview, including cosmology and ethics.
Many famous translations of the Iliad and Odyssey are not original but derivative, creating a false illusion of diversity.
Translation is not about fidelity—it's about active re-engagement; Wilson is already re-translating the Odyssey from scratch.
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Introducing Emily Wilson
Sam Leith introduces Emily Wilson, classicist and translator of the Odyssey, as the guest for the episode.
The Dual Nature of Ancient Literature
“So a lot of the theme of the book is just that combination—so different, and yet there's something there that is so fully human and comprehensible.”
Why Roman Literature Exists
“It is quite weird that the Romans were militarily dominant over the Greeks, and yet they also were constantly looking back to them in terms of literary form and aesthetics.”
The Impossible English Hexameter
“In my opinion they're mostly pretty awful. Clough could just about do it. Clough is great. I love Clough and also Longfellow could do it, but most other people who've tried it, not so successful.”
“My point is that that song is like Aristophanes not just because it is obscene, of course it's obscene, but it's also playing with language and it's playing with language in a way that is also, as much ancient comedy is, about boasting as well as about let me riff on tropes and extend the tropes far further than you might think possible.”
“I actually added a, if you have misogynistic trolling, please click here to my website in case people want to enjoy that because I have received some of those.”
“or quasi -experts or whoever it might be, that makes it more dialogic. There's more than one possible way to approach this. There is more than one possible way to imagine this.”
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