מנחות פח 5786
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This episode of Daf Yomi: The 35 Minute Daf explores the Mishnah in Masechet Menachot, focusing on the seven liquid measures used in the Beis HaMikdash, particularly the debate over the role and existence of the largest measure, the hin. The discussion centers on whether there were seven distinct measuring vessels or one large vessel with markings, and why the hin—used only once by Moshe Rabbeinu for anointing the Shemen HaMishchah—was no longer relevant in later times. Rabbi Shimon argues that since the hin was not used, it should be replaced by the log and a half, which was used daily for the Kohen Gadol’s Minchas Chavitin. The episode delves into the practical and symbolic reasons for having standardized measures, including the importance of overflow (froth) in measurements and the sanctity of the vessels themselves. A key discussion arises over why certain measuring cups—like the reviyas and chatzilog—were anointed and sanctified, even when their contents were sanctified elsewhere. The answer lies in their use for measuring the oil of the Menorah, where a lamp going out required complete cleaning and refilling with a full measure, necessitating precise tools. The episode concludes with a debate over whether the lamps of the Menorah were removable or flexible, and how they could be cleaned, highlighting the intricate halachic reasoning behind ritual design and function.
The seven liquid measures in the Beis HaMikdash were not necessarily seven separate vessels, but could be markings on one large container.
Rabbi Shimon replaced the unused hin with the log and a half, used daily for the Kohen Gadol’s Minchas Chavitin, to maintain the tradition of seven measures.
Measuring vessels were sanctified not just for their contents, but for their role in measuring sacred items like the Menorah oil, even when the final sanctification came later.
When a Menorah lamp went out, it had to be completely cleaned and refilled with a full measure, not just the missing amount, requiring precise measuring tools.
The design of the Menorah lamps—whether removable or flexible—was debated, with practical implications for cleaning and maintenance.
Introduction to the Seven Liquid Measures
The episode begins with the Mishnah on Pei Zayinim and Beis, introducing the seven liquid measures used in the Beis HaMikdash, including hin, chetzi hin, shlisha, reviyas, log, chatzilog, and reviyas leon. The host explains the sizes and uses of each measure.
The Debate Over the Hin and Rabbi Shimon's Solution
“Rabbi Shimon said, there's no hin anymore because it was only used one time at a time. Moshe was put away, stored away. So how am I going to complete the seven?”
Why Measuring Vessels Were Sanctified
“The Raviyah was sanctified because it was used to measure the Shemen of the Chaviteh Koen Gadol.”
The Practical Need for Full Measures After a Lamp Goes Out
“You can't use what's remaining there anymore, right? That's dirty, full of ashes, unfit. So you got to put a new, so just put the same amount.”
The Design of the Menorah Lamps: Removable or Flexible?
A halachic debate is presented on whether the lamps of the Menorah were removable or simply flexible enough to be turned over for cleaning, with implications for ritual purity and maintenance.
“Rabbi Shimon said, there's no hin anymore because it was only used one time at a time. Moshe was put away, stored away. So how am I going to complete the seven?”
“The Raviyah was sanctified because it was used to measure the Shemen of the Chaviteh Koen Gadol.”
“If one of the lambs got extinguished, the oil and the wick are considered unfit. They're considered dirty. They're just like ashes.”
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Menorah
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Rabbi Shimon
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Beis HaMikdash
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Moshe Rabbeinu
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Kohen Gadol
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Masechet Menachot
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Minchas Chavitin
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Rebbe
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Shemen HaMishchah
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Rav Sheshet
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